It’s funny that Kevin Beaulieu (who is also Giambrone’s Executive Assistant) calls these people “perpetrators”. I guess he is re-thinking his position on the postering issue.

Comment by John
November 4, 2006 @ 7:51 pm

The creators of the flyer are not the only people dissappointed with Adam’s first term and his attitude in general towards residents. I think people should be encouraged to disseminate their own views and express them to the community at large. But this ad will be diminished, as it should be, in the eyes of many voters beacuse the authours had everything but the courage to put their names behind their accusations.

Comment by scott d
November 4, 2006 @ 8:21 pm

wow vague anyone? How about some quotes? or specifics, if you’re going to attack someone do it well.

And John…explain? Is it that “perpetrators” implies criminality?

Comment by Dave Scrivener
November 4, 2006 @ 8:23 pm

Hi Dave. That is exactly my point. By calling these people “perpetrators”, there is a clear implication that their actions are somehow criminal. Free speech, indeed.

Comment by John
November 4, 2006 @ 8:41 pm

Perpetrator is the correct usage, and does not exclusively mean criminality.

To quote the definition of perpetrator, from Random House Unabridged Dictionary 2006: to present, execute, or do in a poor or tasteless manner.

They imply Giambrone, an elected official, is part of a dictatorship. Not to mention that the poster is so poorly worded that their third point seems to imply Giambrone is looking for drugs and hookers for his own use.

And it could be argued that this is slanderous or libel, and thus a crime.

Anyway, the semantics of Giambrone officials should not be the issue at heart here. There are much worse actions going on against him and his campaign. It seems like the “perpetrators” don’t like how democracy has worked against them (neighbours complain, councillor fixes problem, makes sure it can’t happen again). Then they go and slander the councillor and remove his flyers from mailboxes.

Comment by Matt Blackett
November 4, 2006 @ 9:11 pm

I stand corrected. Although these people are pretty angry and motivated. Surey they have a real complaint to cause such a reaction. Is there anything to what they say (despite the way they have said it)? What’s the whole story?

Comment by John
November 4, 2006 @ 9:21 pm

Hookers. The hookers line sounds like it refers to a specific day or time that they had wanted to meet and that Adam was maybe out doing a safety audit or something. I think overall the poster is making accusations but I’m not convinced that given the fractured grammar they meant he personally was looking for drugs and hookers. Hopefuly Kevin can provide some specifics and someone can talk to the poster creators directly. Anybody know which shops ?

Comment by scott d
November 4, 2006 @ 10:51 pm

there’s also an anti-giambrone SUV driving around with a sign on it

http://www.torontoist.com/archives/2006/11/chasing_the_nog.php

Comment by kevin bracken
November 4, 2006 @ 11:40 pm

If Adam really needs drugs and hookers, I know a guy who knows a guy. There’s no need for him to go looking on the taxpayers dime.

But seriously, I have no beef with someone expressing their opinion on an elected official’s term in office, but being a coward and not putting your name to your opinions is not cool.

Comment by Chris Dart
November 4, 2006 @ 11:42 pm

Giambrone’s very inexperienced, and he’s screwing up a lot. People who live here are unhappy with him. I’ve never heard so many complaints. It’s not good.

Comment by rocco
November 5, 2006 @ 10:31 am

Rocco, do you drive a black Jeep Cherokee with a license plate ANND 410?

Comment by A
November 5, 2006 @ 12:39 pm

^rocco> Thanks for choosing not to give us any facts and examples. It keeps with the spirit of these posters.

Comment by Shawn Micallef
November 5, 2006 @ 12:39 pm

Preoccupied with bikes? That made me laugh my ass off.
I *heard* that he also claims to be an expeditious force behind the yet-to-be-built (and only in part) West Toronto Railpath - on his campaign literature. HAH! Maybe that is where the cowardly complainants get this outrageously funny idea that he is preoccupied with bikes? I just moved out of ward 18. But I do wish someone knew exactly what got stuck in this guy’s craw….’heavy duty bunkers’ is certainly some kind of a clue… anyone seen and HD bunkers in the ‘hood?

Comment by tammy
November 5, 2006 @ 12:44 pm

Adam, like many politicians likes to fudge the credit for things to make it seem they were solely responsible for things like Railpath.

All of a sudden, I suspect from Active 18 and bad press, Adam has become Mr. Community Development Man after somewhat ignoring development issues all over the war (48 Abell, 351 Wallace, Dovercourt Square to name a few) for most of his term. Thats what many residents feel and have stated publicaly and thats what has been written in the press.

I had to laugh at the bycycle comment too as even at Spacing Adam has not been given great marks for his bike activities. I also had to laugh that he used the only favourable spacing quote about him on his new flyer, of course all other mentions are less than flattering.

Adam will probably win again despit the wrath but during his second term he has to start to deliver and change his attitude in teerms of dealing with residents. Hopefully he has learned something during term 1.

Two quick things: Does anybody know about Wookeys comments on his site that Adam will quit to run for the NDP. And lastly, the person who spotted and took the picture of the truck… nice detective work.

Comment by scott d
November 5, 2006 @ 1:19 pm

My name is Danny Nardelli, I am the person responsible for the “Don’t Vote For Adam Giambrone” campaign. It is me or my son, you see behind the wheel of the truck with the big signs.

I am doing this campaign on my own and I am paying for it myself. My son and other angry neighbours are helping me. I am angry, not crazy. I am a tradesperson, a plumber, and have a small business in the ward. For 3 months I have been trying to get a site meeting with Adam Giambrone to discuss the parking issues and concrete barriers in front of my and my neighbours business. Adam Giambrone has put concrete barriers and no stopping zones on our street (both sides) so we cannot park our cars and customers cannot park their cars, in front of our businesses. We get parking tickets if we do, almost everyday!! This street is a commercial dead-end street (Approx 150 metes long) with no residences on it, only auto body shops, plumbers and other small immigrant businesses and we know he wants to put a bike path there instead of parking. We do not speak english well but we work very hard and long hours. When we complained to Adam Giambrone about the issuse, he said “come back in 4 years” He was arrogant and spoke to me like a dictator. Many of my neighbours fled communist countries or dictatorships. Other hard working people who read this they will understand my anger and frustration if their councillor ignored them and hurt their ability to earn an income and provide for their family.
Thank You

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 5, 2006 @ 6:14 pm

I’m sure there were people throwing the word dictatorship around in Lastman’s day… not to mention about the current and previous PMO. I had the same reaction as John @1, that it would be interesting to see the reaction of those who refuse any regulation of postering and bring charter cases against it.

scott d - Vaughan claims Jack Layton said “run in 29 and we’ll back you, run in 20 and we’ll bury you” - Layton disputes the “bury” but given that exchange whichever wording you believe it seems unlikely Vaughan will jump in the NDP bed in the near future.

Comment by Mark Dowling
November 5, 2006 @ 8:55 pm

Mark, I meant Adam Giambrone. Wookey.ca makes this claim:
” Adam Giambrone will not commit to a full-term if re-elected councillor. Adam Giambrone has been councillor for Davenport for less than 3 years, the first half of which, according to John Barber of the Globe and Mail, had “the job of re-building the NDP in the image of former councillor Jack Layton” that took precedence over his responsibilities to the people of Ward 18.”

There are 2, belated, candidate meetings for this ward coming up so I expect somebody to ask. Meetings held a bit sooner would have been more ghelpful and democratic in my mind.

Comment by scott d
November 5, 2006 @ 9:39 pm

Danny,

Your message would have more weight if you had put your name on it in the first place but I think you deserve some credit for your post here that in many ways helps explain some of the comments on your poster.

Where exactly is your business ?

Comment by scott d
November 5, 2006 @ 9:53 pm

As far as I know, Scott, Giambrone has not committed to serving his whole term. Maybe he will at the candidates meetings this week.

There has been lots of talk that he is planning on running provincially against Ruprecht, or against Silva federally. Most people would acknowledge that a jump of that sort is in his plans, and it is just a matter of when.

Comment by Bryan
November 5, 2006 @ 9:58 pm

Danny,

What street are you talking about that has had “bunkers” put on it.

Dougal

Comment by dougal
November 6, 2006 @ 12:13 am

scott - sorry I put 2 and 2 together and made (ward) 20

Comment by Mark Dowling
November 6, 2006 @ 12:22 am

Dougal, I think it is Cariboo Street. I was speaking to a guy who works up there last night, and he says they do indeed have bunkers. Link to the map.

Comment by Bryan
November 6, 2006 @ 12:41 am

No parking on the street = communism or dictatorship.

Yeah, right. Get a life.

Comment by thickslab
November 6, 2006 @ 10:56 am

People should not run at if they already have plans to quit and run at a different level, especially if it looks like an election will happen within a year. This is a an issue at that needs to be addressed. There is a difference between some kind of unexpected event and a calculated move. Lets see what he says on Tuesday.

Comment by scott d
November 6, 2006 @ 11:28 am

I’m interested to know Giambrone’s long-term plans, too. I’m caught in an interesting position here.. at the same time as I’m not in the hookers and dictators camp against giving Adam a second term, Simon Wookey is a childhood friend of mine. We met one halloween. I was a bat, he was a smurf… So I have to smurf him a vote for old times’ sake. Add to that I think he’ll do a good job. So I’m note voting against Adam per se.

Smurf the vote! Let the Wookey win! Bwahahaha… Ward 18 is getting interesting!

Comment by Hamish
November 6, 2006 @ 11:46 am

Astonishing to see Spacing complain (and take Councillor Stintz’s position) that a “A name or contact number are not included on the poster”. Dudes, quit being an NDP party hack.

Comment by Annon
November 6, 2006 @ 12:33 pm

That’s all it takes to be an NDP Hack?

Vote Stintz!

Comment by Shawn Micallef
November 6, 2006 @ 12:44 pm

If you’re going to be outrageous and make claims like this poster does, at minimum you could attach your name to it. I just feel that if you’re going to try and change public opinion you should be brave enough to attach your name to it. This is not a defense of the NDP or a position similar to Karen Stintz. I would be saying the exact same thing if this had been done to Del Grande or Minnan-Wong.

No matter what your views are towards the candidates in your riding, you have to give them credit for putting their neck out on the line — their reputation, platform, and values are all there for the public to criticize or flog.

I don’t think it is unfair to suggest that if you’re going to wage a marketing campaign to unseat a councillor that you back it up with either your name or contact info. Otherwise, it just looks like ditry elcetioneering by one of Giambrone’s challengers.

Comment by Matt Blackett
November 6, 2006 @ 12:56 pm

Thank you Danny for your explanation. I now understand where your frustrations come from. I hope others read your comments.

I have also had a very poor experience with Adam. I noticed that Adam was named by the Star as one of the 4 most disappointing councilors.

A question for u all - does Adam live in Ward 18??

Looking forward to the debates. Hopefully they will be civil!!

Comment by edward
November 6, 2006 @ 12:57 pm

Note that Giambrone stepped down as NDP president this year. Any suggestion that he plans to quit halfway through is just rumor-mongering. After all, Wookey seems to have a close connection to the Liberals - note Mario Silva’s prominent place in Wookey’s literature - so maybe Wookey hopes to move up, himself. There’s just as much evidence.

Comment by Paul
November 6, 2006 @ 1:03 pm

While I can see Dann’ys point, why should tradesmen and autobody shops be above the law. I am sorry but while I feel a little sympathy for you as a hard working plumber Autobody shops on the other hand are notoriously shifty places - like the crash chasing tow truck drivers who frequent them.

In order for your arguement to be more effective please back up your complaints with specific references. Then it not only looks like you really do have a beef with Giambrone (instead of just coming off as a wack job) it adds a ton of credibility to you complaints.

Comment by mm
November 6, 2006 @ 1:12 pm

Adam does live in the Ward. From the people I’ve spoken to, they either like him a lot, or think he hasn’t done much of anything. I’ve haven’t come across too many people who are, “Meh”, about him. Some groups and people think he’s very responsive, while others think he is too slow. I’ve spoken to him once and he’s quite friendly, if that counts for anything. I’ve emailed him a question once, and got a response back the next day (a Saturday).

Comment by ramanan
November 6, 2006 @ 1:17 pm

This guy went ahead and changed the parking bylaws on my street without consulting the residents. Already it’s hard to find a spot, but now he’s forcing us to park on the other side of the street for half the month. The only problem is that due to parking pads and hydrants there are too few spots on that side to accomodate the residents! No forethought. No consultation. No vote.

Comment by rocco
November 6, 2006 @ 2:42 pm

This guy went ahead and changed the parking bylaws on my street without consulting the residents.

Really? Giambrone has the power to unilaterally change parking bylaws?

Comment by thickslab
November 6, 2006 @ 3:20 pm

well, if he didn’t he certainly took credit for it.

Comment by rocco
November 6, 2006 @ 3:55 pm

Wow Rocco. Welcome to Toronto. If your new here, which it sounds like you are, most residential parking changes sides mid way through each month for the purposes of snow removal and street cleaning.

If your street didn’t have this bylaw before you were very lucky indeed.

Comment by mm
November 6, 2006 @ 3:55 pm

Born here. And we only moved aside for one lousy day a week, before Giambrone got involved.

Comment by rocco
November 6, 2006 @ 4:18 pm

MM, What makes you think Rocco is new to Toronto ? I find that remark a bit condescending.

“Most” residential parking change sides in Toronto ? Not that I am aware of and not on any of the 20 or so streets in the same ward near Cariboo that I park on.

I wish we had that in the Perth Wallace Dupont area.

Comment by scott d
November 6, 2006 @ 4:42 pm

If you check the quarterly newsletters posted on Giabrone’s website, you will see notes about traffic issues on cariboo (as well as other streets), and requests for comment on alternate-side parking, dating back to 2004.

Of course, if Giambrone’s staffer is correct, then this is not an issue about street parking at all - it’s about business owners parking on the sidewalk, which I think we can all agree isn’t cool.

Comment by Paul
November 6, 2006 @ 6:37 pm

First I would like to start off with “mm, Scott D, and Dougal”. Nobody is above the law. But all busnesses should be treated equally. There is no street in the city of Toronto that has NO STOPPING on either side 24/7 except the Gardiner, oh sorry now there is another Cariboo Ave(that is where these businesses are). If I had to get into specifics it would have taken up three maybe four flyers.

Matt Blackett
How can you say these are outrageous claims have you even seen Cariboo Ave? Do you even know where it is? Be careful when parkng there you might get a ticket! And as for the Hookers and Drug dealers comment, Adam Giambrone had a whole half day to spend for them but couldn’t spare 1 hour for the hard workng people of his Ward. This Ward doesn’t need Adam Giambrone, anyone else but him! I am not always polictically correct or grammatically correct but the point is made. (Matt please check your last comment it’s electioneering)

Maybe you can all help me. Why would Adam Giambrone request this street be a NO STOPPING zone 24/7? Is it for discriminatory action against these businesses or for personal gain?

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 6, 2006 @ 7:06 pm

I checked out Cariboo tonight. Not exactly sure how much actual sidwalk there is and exactly who would care. Its a short dead end light industrial street. Possibly it was becoming an eye sore but there are all these large concrete barriers (4 foot high highway dividers) all over the place and I think some have been moved by the locals. If the barriers were to beautify they havent. If they were put there to stop people from leaving junked cars outside buildings, they havent. I cant figure out exactly what the issue was but I am not sure it was street parking.

Comment by scott d
November 7, 2006 @ 12:20 am

I live in Ward 18 and voted for Adam Giambrone as a loyal NDP supporter in the last election. I will NOT be voting for him again though, he is completely self involved and I have seen him do nothing for this community. Seriously, bike racks on TTC buses? That money could have been put to much better use.

Comment by Kevin B.
November 7, 2006 @ 4:19 am

As a long term resident I can honestly say that before Adam came along all we ever got from our local councillors was lip service, I am very active on issues aroiund Sterling/Perth/Symington, and Adam has been able to respond to almost any and all of my requests, we has a poll done to implement alternate side parking, it has been determined not to work for us , so in the new year it will end, we asked for better Traffic lights, - Accomplished, we asked for Bollards- accomplished, we have done 2 safety audits, and those recommendations are working their way through the various departments..I have never met the other candidates. I have had dealings with almost all of Adam’s office and they have done their utmost to assist where they have been able to..Adam has worked harder than any councillor in any of the districts I have lived in, so I WILL be voting for Adam…I really think if you have a concern and it is legitimate..they have the staff with the ability to respond and start the process for action - I know that change is not immediate..but where there is a safety issue or a health issue they have been very quick to get a process begun, which is a lot more than a former -not-to -be-named, councillor ever did during his term in office.

Comment by Philip Share
November 7, 2006 @ 2:08 pm

Scott;
Thanks for taking some time to go see what we have to deal with everyday. Now you can probably understand a little more what our “beef” is. Those barriers hinder our businesses from providing adaquate service to our customers and suppliers. Which means less revenue and businesses eventually closng up shop. Tonight I listened to Giambrone preach how his helping small businesses. Is this helping small businesses? If it is, we don’t want your help Adam Giambrone!!!

Thanks Again Scott For your time

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 8, 2006 @ 12:13 am

This was posted to a mailing list I am on by Adam Giambrone’s campaign manager. Hope there isn’t a problem with me reposting it here:

—

Adam has offered repeatedly to meet with Mr. Nardelli. You’ll note that Mr. Nardelli’s own message says that he has already spoken with Adam. Adam has, over time, spoken with a number of the body shop owners on Cariboo Ave–the street in question.

We’d like to attach photos of the street taken the morning of Sunday 5 November 2006, but I don’t think the listserv accepts photo attachments, does it? They show that even with the jersey barriers in place, the right-of-way is not being respected by some of the shops. It was far worse before the barriers were there.

Many years of complaints by residents (mostly from Osler Street, which intersects Cariboo, and onto which the stored cars overflow) and years of non-cooperation from some of the body shops are the reasons that the jersey barriers are there. Originally, the city installed regular curbstones, but they proved ineffective, being easily removed. Efforts at cooperation, enforcement and ticketing have repeatedly proven ineffective. There is “no stopping” on both sides of the street because some of the shop owners stored their automobiles (i.e, wrecks) there, scurrying to move them a few inches every time they saw a parking enforcement officer, thereby preventing tickets from being issued. “No stopping” is the only way to prevent the street from becoming a de facto long-term parking lot.

The autobody shops have a right to be there and to conduct their business, but they don’t have a right to take over the public right-of-way, forcing pedestrians, cyclists and people in wheelchairs onto the street.

On top of local complaints about some of the autobody shops abusing the sidewalk and on-street parking, it’s true that Cariboo Ave will soon be the
northern entry point to the Railpath, much-anticipated bike/pedestrian path along the rail corridor, and as such, it will no longer be nearly as isolated as it has been. Work has begun on the path (beginning with the necessary soil clean-up) and a clear right-of-way on Cariboo will become even more important when it is completed.

We can only assume that the part of the poster about “looking for ookers
and drug addicts” refers to one of several community safety audits Adam as conducted. He’s very proud of that kind of community engagement, as he is of his commitments to parks, cycling and strong small-business communities.

Thanks again for the opportunity to respond.

Kevin Beaulieu
Campaign Manager
Campaign to Re-elect Adam Giambrone
Toronto City Councillor
Ward 18 Davenport

Comment by ramanan
November 8, 2006 @ 10:49 am

Kudos to all of you who care enough about our city and neighbourhoods to read and contribute to this blog. As someone who lives near this area I can atest to the arrogant and inconsiderate behaviour of the autoshop owners on Cariboo.

For years their behaviour went unchecked and, now, only with the installation of the concrete blocks, are they realizing that they have to work within the city’s bylaws and rules. Having lived downtown all my life I am very aware of the need to share the limited space with industrial and commercial interests. ‘Share’ is the keyword here - the business owners in question obviously failed this important kindergarten subject.

I credit Adam for having the cojones to address this community concern and I am sure that he will be vindicated on the 13th.

Comment by Jack Straw
November 8, 2006 @ 1:28 pm

Kevin;

You being the right hand man for Adam I am assuming. Let me run this little question by you. Have you ever owned your own business? Because many businesses that actually produce something ie Auto body shops, need parts delivered CORRECT!!! Parts drivers will not and cannot leave there vehicals unattened. They get ticketed. Coffee truck drivers have recieved numerous tickets. Adam Tuesday night at the debate said he is all in favour for helping small businesses in his ward. But I beg to differ. If it is pictures you want I have many pictures of Cariboo and also surrounding areas which these other areas have not been bothered with.

In you comment you stated that people in wheelchairs and cyclist were being forced on to the street” This is a industrial DEAD-END street approx 125 meters long. It is not a thru street and is never used by cyclst nor people in a wheel chairs. So am I calling you a liar, YES!!!!

There were never sidewalks on this street until approx 2 years ago. The sidewalk was installed on the North side to directly affect these businesses. It could have been installed on the South side where it affects no one. We strongly urge you to go there and see it for yourself. Adam Giambrone never informed the businesses nor the property owner of these sidewalks being installed.

Adam Giambrone has never talked to any of the body shop owner, because of the six units on the north side none are fluent in english, this is why I am representing them. Am I calling Adam a liar? YESSSSS!!!!

And if you don’t beleave us go and knock on those six doors!!!!

Adam Giambrone has refused a SITE meeting (a meeting at the place where the issuse/problem is). Not at his office at City Hall. I hope that you people could see me Danny Nardelli trying to gather 30 of these people and bring them to City Hall at 9am when it is their most productive time of the day. SO AS FOR ADAM’S REPEATED ATTEMPS FOR A MEETING, ANOTHER LIE!!!!!!

And with regards to the Hookers and drug addicts comment he had whole Sunday afternoon to “audit” them but not 1 hour for these hard working people.

You also stated that Cariboo Ave will be the Nothern entrance to a park. So Adam Giambrone is killing these buisnesses to try and thicken his own portfolio. Isn’t that great for these hard workng people.

So as the great Robin Wlliams said

“POLITICIANS ARE LIKE DIAPERS THEY SHOULD BE
CHANGED OFTEN AND FOR THE SAME REASON”

Thank You Danny Nardelli

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 8, 2006 @ 11:53 pm

Adam is great at slipping issues under the radar. A notice was sent around asking residents if they wanted speed bumps installed on their street. Residents voted against them, so what happened next? — Concrete plant box barriers showed up on side streets without notice to area residents. If you check Adam’s website, it says that the curbs were necessary to prevent people from driving the wrong way on a side street. He got City Council to vote for this along with another stoplight at Dundas and Sheridan. For those not familiar with the area, that means that three blocks will have 3 stoplights (Dundas/Brock, Dundas/Sheridan & Dundas/Dufferin). I never got a notice to vote for these changes.

Comment by Susy
November 9, 2006 @ 2:53 pm

In response to Mr. Nardelli’s concerns;

How come Giambrone and Nardelli cannot come to some sort of agreement? Obviously Caribou ave was being used illegally, and something needed to be done to accomodate the changing demographics of the neighbourhood. However, the absolute ban on parking has resulted in an ugly confrontation. Is there no way of allowing a small space to be used for parking?

Mr. Nardelli should realize he’ll never get back what he had. Mr. Giambrone should respect the importance of these small businessmen on Caribou, and see if there’s a way to accomodate both the new resdiential areas as well as the people who helped build the neighbourhood.

Michael Hyman

Comment by Michael H
November 9, 2006 @ 4:25 pm

Well said Michael.

Comment by scott d
November 10, 2006 @ 12:50 pm

The first reasonable take on the situation I’ve heard so far, Michael. I have to say that whatever run-ins people have had with Adam, this poster and flyer campaign is just rude. There are plenty of forums for debate, and this kind of smear campaign is uncalled for and hate-mongering. It should be noted that the main effect is rallying support for Adam. I attended the all-candidates meeting on Tuesday, and noted that this was the first time Adam was able to put a name or face to the person responsible for the smear campaign. Surely that is a sign that some negotiating could have occurred before the print job.
Emily

Comment by Emily
November 10, 2006 @ 1:46 pm

Micheal
That was well said I agree that a comprimised is what is called for in this situation. We as the PROPERTY owners of Cariboo Ave agreed to even have blvd parking fees in which we would pay for this additional parking. We have tried every angle to make both sides happy. Being that this PET project of Adam Giambrone (the park near the railpath)is already in the works with yet again no input from the residents in the surrounding area. He is like a race horse with the blinders on, and does not want to hear any of it.

Emily

I Also agree with you, some negotiation SHOULD have taken place not could have. Like I stated to Micheal Adam Giambrone was to hear nothing of the subject. Emily you were at the meeting Tuesday night, so must you must have heard Adam preaching of how he is going to help the small businesses in the community. If you have a chance go and see Cariboo Ave, this is not helping the small business this is hindering them.

If anyone reading this forum can spare a few minutes to better their community I urge you to take a drive by Cariboo Ave and see what Adam Giambrone has done to these small businesses. Then you tell me if this was you business if you would have any respect for Adam Giambrone. If you think this fine then vote for him IF NOT VOTE FOR ANYBODY ELSE.

Thank You

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 10, 2006 @ 2:38 pm

No matter what size your business is, I don’t think you should be able to park wrecked cars all over public property. You’ve only got “bunkers” now because you refused to respect more delicate measures. You’ve been poor corporate citizens, and you got your wrist slapped. If I was councillor, I’d have your wrecks towed, and make you pay the bill along with a hefty fine.

Comment by Paul
November 10, 2006 @ 3:04 pm

Paul;

I understand exactly what you are saying and respect your saying. But, lets just think about this logically for a second. In my last statement I said that we as the owners would pay for blvd parking to comprimise with Adam Giambrone’s erratic behavior. Now do you think that I would pay for a wrecked car to stay on the street? Not a chance! If that was the case the car would make me more money in the wrecking yard. ($100-500 in scrape metal) The street was used for the employees cars, delivery truck and or customer drop offs and pick ups. Not to mention this is a DEAD-END street that is only used by the shops that are housed there. If you have a chance Paul please go and check it out!!! (Cariboo Ave)

Thanks

Comment by Danny Nardelli
November 11, 2006 @ 12:56 pm

I think people do not understand what Danny Nardelli is trying to explain. He owns a plumbing company, he does not own one of the offending auto body shops. In order to target the real offenders, the actions taken by Adam are affecting innocent shop owners on the street. How are customers and trades supposed to access his plumbing store and not be inconvienced?

Also, if Adam is so opposed to cars being stored on the street, has he even driven/biked down Glastone Avenue near Queen? Those shops do the same thing.

Good luck Danny!

Comment by Sandra
November 12, 2006 @ 4:55 pm

If the same behaviour is taking place on Gladstone, that doesn’t make it right. Are their houses in and around that strip you are talking about? This issue came to head because people living on Osler started to complain. (As pointed out in the letter from Adam’s office, the cars were overflowing on to Osler.)

Comment by ramanan
November 13, 2006 @ 4:03 pm