{"id":5858,"date":"2015-03-30T10:00:13","date_gmt":"2015-03-30T16:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/?p=5858"},"modified":"2015-03-25T09:42:43","modified_gmt":"2015-03-25T15:42:43","slug":"designing-cultural-discourse-conversation-douglas-cardinal","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/2015\/03\/30\/designing-cultural-discourse-conversation-douglas-cardinal\/","title":{"rendered":"Designing through a Cultural Discourse: in Conversation with Douglas Cardinal"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>A few weeks ago\u00a0I had the greatest pleasure of sharing a conversation with one of Canada&#8217;s most well- known architects, Douglas Cardinal, who was in town for the Dreamspeakers Film Festival as a keynote speaker. \u00a0Its\u00a0always interesting reading or studying about architects\u00a0on books and paper, but meeting one in person breaks up that formality of association\u00a0between &#8220;designer&#8221;and \u00a0&#8220;user&#8221;. \u00a0 \u00a0In the realm of architecture, where spaces are viewed most commonly through shapes and forms, the question of relevance in how we occupy them can sometimes be\u00a0lost. \u00a0\u00a0Are we building spaces that we can live in? Or do we eventually become conditioned to adapt to static spatial arrangements that are churned out from a generic living\u00a0idiom?<\/p>\n<p>In sitting down with the great Mr. Cardinal, there is a desire from him to connect the &#8220;designer&#8221; (or what he also refers to as &#8220;the builder&#8221;) with the people we are designing for. \u00a0His designs are organic as it is paralleled with the\u00a0human interactions that occupy them. \u00a0With his 81st birthday coming up soon, his mind has not lost track of the digitized tools that designers depend on, but still rigourously adheres to the very humanistic processes of cultural and artistic collaboration that has always been deeply rooted in the studies of architecture. \u00a0Although cool, collected and composed, he was very comfortable and positive about sharing his views on the sublime yet harsh realities of designing as an architect.<\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA:<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Where do you typically find your inspiration? When you want to build something\u00a0beautiful\u00a0but sensitive to the\u00a0humanistic\u00a0occupancy of how\u00a0one occupies a space?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I always find that my inspiration is not only the people i\u2019m working with but the people that are working in the spaces.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I never get much inspiration from top down structure but from bottom up structure like from people themselves.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: &#8230;like designing inside to out? <\/b>\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> &#8230;yeah.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>If I\u2019m designing a school, I rather talk to the students and the teachers and build a foundation of design from the people who are in those spaces.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>People outside of that have very little understanding of what is happening in that classroom.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>This is where I find division coming from the user and if we talk to the people in our city and become inspire by their vision of their city and what they want in our city, its a good foundation to start in terms of providing them spaces that would be much more harmonized within its surrounding natural environment.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: How would you like your work to be remembered? What is your ultimate goal when it comes to your work? <\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> I remember as a student, I designed a whole city like it was a living being and had the systems and the cars of people flying through like a human body.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 I<\/span>t had a skeleton and an arterial system and an electronics of a building that would reflect our nervous system, it basically personified a living being.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>I don\u2019t think cities in North America have even touched on thinking about designing for the north.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I find it more interesting and inspiring in observing how crowds of people can function in the spaces of our \u201cconcrete jungle\u201d of structures rather than the structures themselves. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>So what kind of architecture can truly express who we are as a people? And that&#8217;s what I\u00a0tried to do with my work.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 With<\/span>\u00a0the Canadian Museum of Civilization, I wanted to express what Canadian culture would be, so that when people walk through the building they would say \u201cyes this is who we really are\u201d.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\">I think that architects are becoming less important in this age. They were even more important when I\u00a0was younger and then everyone started taking over our profession. Everyone feels that they can build these boxes so why do we need an architect. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>I think architects should have a stronger place in society like they did in the past and have people realize that our built environment shapes us and how we want to be shaped which would be exciting for me to live in.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>My ultimate goal is to create exciting, dynamic environments for us to live in.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: You actually just got back from China not long ago? Tell me about your trip.<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> For me it was extremely exciting.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>We were invited by the minister who looks after the indigenous cultures there and there is a commitment by the government to preserve and make sure the indigenous people are able to function and survive in the future.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>These groups were important because they reminded Chinese people of who they were and where their roots came from. <span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0<\/span>I was sharing my work with the universities there and the younger students felt that what I had said was very important to them.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Topics of architecture being in harmony with people, nature and the environment, and the professors at one point were like you\u2019re speaking\u00a0Chinese to us, those are the things that we value.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I felt very much at home in China because we shared these same values that are not necessarily reflected in our buildings in North America.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: How would you describe our Canadian culture then?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> I think the Canadian culture of course has its roots in the indigenous culture because the people that have been there for a thousand of years have had an impact on the people that have come to share the land with them.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>The indigenous groups were matriarchal and they lived in peace and harmony with each other so the base of the culture was one of giving sharing and caring, so I find the indigenous culture were very open and welcoming to people of all cultures.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Unfortunately First Nations had the terrible crisis of losing 90% their population, having their children put into residential schools, and 40% of them dying in these schools because of colonialism.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>There are many countries devastated by colonialism and that used to be considered to be an act of ordering our human evolution but now is considered to be a problem that we all have to deal with.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I believe First Nations culture has a huge contribution to the rest of society and I\u2019ve always been interested in believing that all people should have an opportunity to express themselves, which is the foundation of this country.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>That is why when you have people of all different cultures or different ways of thinking coming together to share their realities, and you embrace them, it makes you twice as big and broadens your view of your human family.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>So for me, this is the basic philosophy and foundation of Canadian culture.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-5860\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-600x600.jpeg\" alt=\"image (13)\" width=\"600\" height=\"600\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-600x600.jpeg 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-150x150.jpeg 150w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-300x300.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-940x940.jpeg 940w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13-62x62.jpeg 62w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/9\/2015\/02\/image-13.jpeg 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA:<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>A lot of the forms of your buildings have a signature style of being curvilinear, yet your process and firm have worked and connected with communities and people.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>What is the connection between your form and serving the functional needs of the people that occupy it?\u00a0<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> What I like to to do is bring people together and have each person share their vision with you.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>As an architect, I feel that you have to blend those voices together in a vision that serves them all and then bring their vision into reality.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Because it&#8217;s not about you but about the people that you are serving. Being open to criticism, to questions, to concerns, all become vital in evolving the idea.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>So you put your ego aside and welcome the criticism of others so that they can evolve the building with you.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>When I was working with the James Bay Cree rural community, we would all sit down and they would all share with me what\u00a0their visions were and it was a very powerful process.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I would go back to the office and design it all and then come back to them and say \u201cnow this is my interpretation of your vision, is this what you are envisioning as well?\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: You were given the Order of Canada, Gold Medals in Architecture from the RAIC, honourary fellowships to the Society of American Registered Architects and the Royal Incorporation of Architects in Scotland and the declaration of being \u201cWorld Master of Contemporary Architecture\u201d as a professor and academic by the International Association of Architects. What\u2019s next?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC:<\/strong> Our building technology and our search for space is evolving.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I see evolving buildings that are much more sustainable and much more in harmony with our environment.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>We\u2019re more sensitive in construction processes that encourage preservation and reclamation of our forests and our rivers and producing cities for people to live and thrive in.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I feel eager to participate in changing our cities to live and dwell in them more responsibly.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I see the new age of being responsible for each other and being responsible for our environment, to clean things up and be responsible for the many generations after.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: Tell me about some of your favourite buildings in Canada and in Alberta?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC<\/strong>: St. Mary\u2019s Church to me was the turning point.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I wanted to present a feeling of caring and loving and embracing of people that came along with that church.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I wanted it to be a spiritual centre and it was a good way to start off that way because I had amazing clients.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>They wanted to bring something new to the liturgy and open the doors to everyone so to me it was a wonderful commission.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Because of that church, I\u00a0thought &#8220;why shouldn&#8217;t every building have a spirit?&#8221; and why not carry that spirit over everyday? So I started trying to create\u00a0that quality and that sense of caring in a building, where it&#8217;s not just a physical thing but a spiritual presence in a space.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><b>OLIVIA: How do you see Alberta today and how has it changed since you started your career?<\/b><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"p1\"><span class=\"s1\"><strong>DC<\/strong>: Alberta has changed a lot.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I\u2019ve seen the extremities from when I was able to swim in the river and drink the water to the point where there is this complete destruction and exploitation of the land itself with our building processes.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Yet, while the city has also grown into many vital centres for us to occupy, the growing process has ignored the architecture itself as being a fundamental value to our built environment.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>I believe we now have a real opportunity for setting an example of building in the north.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>What can we do to make it more livable and more enjoyable?<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>We have the resources, the economy, the people. We should be international trend setters of making meaningful environments for people.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 <\/span>Its a rich economic environment and should also be a rich cultural opportunity as well.<span class=\"Apple-converted-space\">\u00a0 \u00a0<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0For more information about the Dreamspeakers Festival check out:http:\/\/dreamspeakers.org\/2011a\/index.php<\/p>\n<p>For more information about the works of Douglas Cardinal check out:\u00a0http:\/\/www.djcarchitect.com\/<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A few weeks ago\u00a0I had the greatest pleasure of sharing a conversation with one of Canada&#8217;s most well- known architects, Douglas Cardinal, who was in town for the Dreamspeakers Film Festival as a keynote speaker. \u00a0Its\u00a0always interesting reading or studying about architects\u00a0on books and paper, but meeting one in person breaks up that formality of<a href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/edmonton\/2015\/03\/30\/designing-cultural-discourse-conversation-douglas-cardinal\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"sr-only\">&#8220;Designing through a Cultural Discourse: in Conversation with Douglas Cardinal&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":8134,"featured_media":6019,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2,8],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5858","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-architecture","category-curiosities"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.5 - 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