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<\/a>Who would have thought that patios could be so controversial? For nearly a year, since the Sud-Ouest borough approved a pilot project that installed restaurant and bar terrasses on Monk Blvd. in Ville-\u00c9mard, people in the southwest have been divided over whether or not they should exist. Terrasse supporters have banded together with business owners and the borough’s opposition Vision Montreal councillors; terrasse opponents, meanwhile, have rallied around the borough’s Union Montreal mayor, Jacqueline Montpetit, who is dead set against them.<\/p>\n

Most of the terrasse opponents cite noise and disorderly behaviour as their main concerns. Others have complained that the terrasses, which occupy the entire sidewalk and are bypassed by a narrow wooden walkway, make strolling along Monk a hassle<\/a>. This week, though, a poll of southwest Montreal residents was released, showing 80% support<\/a> for terrasses on Monk and other commercial streets such as Notre Dame and Centre. Given this level of popular support, it wouldn’t be surprising if the Monk patios would be allowed to return this summer.<\/p>\n

Sidewalk caf\u00e9s and terrasses do a lot to enliven the city during the summer months. Streets and sidewalks become even more convivial as people sit outside, watching the street or chatting with friends. It’s a great way to extend streetlife into the evening. Even the most forelorn neighbourhood dive bar has a well-populated terrasse at midnight on a summer evening.<\/p>\n

What really surprises me, though, is that the terrasses on Monk Blvd. have become such a contentious issue even though the neighbouring borough of Verdun has used them for years. (See above photo.) Anyone familiar with Wellington St. knows the transformative effect they have every summer. I tend not to follow local issues in Verdun, but if the terraces were unpopular, I doubt they’d be returning every year.<\/p>\n

Still, there are other options. Yesterday, on Spacing Toronto, Dylan Reid posted about an interesting street infrastructure guide<\/a> used by planners in Seattle, who have divided the sidewalk into three sections: the pedestrian zone, in the middle, the frontage zone, next to the buildings, and the landscape\/furniture zone, next to the street. <\/p>\n

Instead of building terrasses on the entire sidewalk, an worthwhile compromise for Monk might be to allow businesses to place tables in the frontage zone and landscape\/furniture zone. With this approach, which has been used effectively in a number of different Montreal neighbourhoods, not to mention cities around the world, pedestrians aren’t forced to detour, and in fact they walk straight through<\/i> the terrasse rather than around it, which increases the sense of conviviality.<\/p>\n

If that isn’t an option, then maybe Monk should learn from Outremont, where wood terrasses replace street parking spots in front of busy restaurants on Laurier and Van Horne. <\/p>\n

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\nTerrasse on Van Horne in Outremont<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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