\u00a0recently spoke with the German newspaper Der Spiegel<\/a>\u00a0at its new offices on Hamburg\u2019s waterfront. The building – home to Spiegel and its media conglomerate – is part of Hafen City, the single largest waterfront redevelopment in the West. Hafen City is similar in scope and style to what\u2019s happening on Toronto\u2019s waterfront: an industrial port land, much larger in Hamburg, is being converted to residential, office and commercial spaces with careful urban design and good architecture.<\/p>\nAnd what does the great Rem say about it? He notices that the journalists are whispering in their own workplace, and (ever the troublemaker) picks on them to make a larger point.<\/p>\n
Koolhaas<\/strong>:\u00a0You seem a little unhappy with this building that was built for you. And you are skeptical about this new neighborhood in which the building is located. I get the feeling that what you need from me isn’t so much an interview as an hour of therapy.
\nSPIEGEL<\/strong>:\u00a0Isn’t skepticism appropriate?
\nKoolhaas<\/strong>:\u00a0Perhaps. But I can’t comfort you. Nowadays, and everywhere, we are in a situation in which many things are interacting and producing results like this building or this HafenCity. It doesn’t matter whether it’s in Hamburg, Dubai or China. It would be easy to say: “The architect has failed” or “The city has failed” or “The evil consortium of investors is to blame.” No, it’s the interplay of all these conditions that produces soulless buildings.<\/p>\n\u00a0![\"\"](\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/network\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/12\/4298036616_aac63a0d7c_b-e1324560548876.jpg\" "\\"HafenCity,")
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There is a danger that we will wind up with that effect here. Not overall, perhaps – there are too many developers involved and too many instiutions. Many architects too. But in individual cases, such as the Bayside neighbourhood being developed by the international real estate company Hines, who knows? That\u2019s a rendering of Bayside at the top – which, to be fair, is extremely early and doesn\u2019t show any of the actual architecture that will come out of the design process. However, the adjacent Sherbourne Common park is basically done, and it is gorgeous.. but a little sterile; it would be improved by some small restaurants and street vendors nearby, a dose of chaos, even something ugly.<\/p>\n
In short, big and uniform are not good things in cities. There\u2019s some insurance in the fact that Waterfront Toronto has enlisted some very good people in its planning apparatus, including Ken Greenberg, who I know shares these views and backs them with vast experience.<\/p>\n
But still. How often does Rem, the apostle of globalism and bigness, sound like Jane Jacobs? It\u2019s important we try and avoid yet another multi-generational mistake, even it happens by doing too much.<\/p>\n
Happy holidays. I\u2019ll see you next week, and again in 2012.<\/p>\n
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