{"id":2460,"date":"2007-11-06T17:05:20","date_gmt":"2007-11-06T21:05:20","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacingtoronto.ca\/?p=2460"},"modified":"2007-11-06T17:05:20","modified_gmt":"2007-11-06T21:05:20","slug":"how-about-roundabouts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2007\/11\/06\/how-about-roundabouts\/","title":{"rendered":"How about roundabouts?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/111\/286586728_16ab83b693.jpg\" alt=\"\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Cross-posted from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eyeweekly.com\/daily\/?p=1164\">Eye Daily.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Last week, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.ca\/committees\/public-works-infrastructure.htm\">the Public Works and Infrastructure Committee <\/a>voted to get staff to do a study on the feasibility of installing roundabouts, those circular roads that replace intersections and are a hallmark of driving in the UK. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.ca\/councillors\/carroll1.htm\">Shelly Carroll<\/a> wasn&#8217;t too down with the idea, arguing that staff should be focusing on the 25 initiatives recently adopted as part of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.ca\/legdocs\/mmis\/2007\/pw\/bgrd\/backgroundfile-7193.pdf\">sustainable transportation plan (PDF).<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u00e2\u20ac\u0153[That plan] didn&#8217;t meet the goals of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.caa.ca\/\">CAA<\/a>; that&#8217;s why [the motion for a study on roundabouts] is here,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d she argued. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153To do this really subverts the decision that we made a month ago\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6.We asked staff to do research and come back with a major report and they just did that\u00e2\u20ac\u00a6. We can&#8217;t just go about willy-nilly throwing around any goofy new initiatives we&#8217;d like.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p>Gary Welsh, general manager of transportation services, admitted that he didn&#8217;t consider roundabouts when putting together the sustainable transportation plan, since they tend to take up a lot of space and aren&#8217;t that friendly to pedestrians or cyclists. (Faye Lyons of the CAA argued in her deputation to the committee that roundabouts limit noise, air pollution and fuel consumption, using <a href=\"http:\/\/www.eyeweekly.com\/daily\/?p=1014\">the old argument that traffic that&#8217;s moving creates less smog.<\/a>) Though he didn&#8217;t seem to big on roundabouts himself, Welsh nevertheless agreed that they should be studied, adding that study or no study, \u00e2\u20ac\u009dI can&#8217;t see a lot being built in the foreseeable future.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d He also admitted that doing the study would distract his staff from getting other work done. <\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.ca\/councillors\/parker1.htm\">Councillor John Parker<\/a> was hot on the idea. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153With the greatest of respect to my dear friend Councillor Carroll, the recommendations [to support sustainable transportation] were not comprehensive. They were directed towards certain goals &#8212; good, important goals, but narrow ones. The report doesn&#8217;t imply a certain conclusion, it&#8217;s just direction to take a look.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.toronto.ca\/councillors\/debaeremaeker1.htm\">Chair Glenn DeBaeremaeker <\/a>supported the study as well. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Yes, approving this will distract [transportation staff], but it&#8217;s worthwhile to do. We&#8217;ll still get our pedestrian scrambles and everything that we want. In the end, roundabouts may only be applicable in one or two or five intersections,\u00e2\u20ac\u009d he said.<\/p>\n<p>The motion was easily passed. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153Great!\u00e2\u20ac\u009d exclaimed DeBaeremaeker after the vote. \u00e2\u20ac\u0153That goofy new initiative has been approved.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d<\/p>\n<p><em>photo by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/kaptainkobold\/286586728\/\">Alan Saunders<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.eyeweekly.com\/daily\/?p=1164\">Click here to leave a comment.<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cross-posted from Eye Daily. Last week, the Public Works and Infrastructure Committee voted to get staff to do a study on the feasibility of installing roundabouts, those circular roads that replace intersections and are a hallmark of driving in the UK. Shelly Carroll wasn&#8217;t too down with the idea, arguing that staff should be focusing<a href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2007\/11\/06\/how-about-roundabouts\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"sr-only\">&#8220;How about roundabouts?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4003,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[2,9],"tags":[6544,976,408,7185,4817,7186,5579,5598,3913,416,5597,6433,1740,7184,5887,7103,464],"class_list":["post-2460","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-politics","category-traffic","tag-alan-saunders","tag-chair","tag-councillor","tag-faye-lyons","tag-gary-welsh","tag-general-manager-of-transportation-services","tag-glenn-debaeremaeker","tag-infrastructure-committee","tag-john-parker","tag-pdf","tag-public-works-and-infrastructure-committee","tag-shelly-carroll","tag-sustainable-transportation","tag-sustainable-transportation-plan","tag-transportation-services","tag-transportation-staff","tag-united-kingdom"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>How about roundabouts? - Spacing Toronto<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2007\/11\/06\/how-about-roundabouts\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"How about roundabouts? - Spacing Toronto\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Cross-posted from Eye Daily. 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