{"id":3020,"date":"2008-04-18T09:30:22","date_gmt":"2008-04-18T14:30:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacingtoronto.ca\/2008\/04\/18\/negotiating-table-should-stay-politician-free\/"},"modified":"2013-01-21T14:19:33","modified_gmt":"2013-01-21T19:19:33","slug":"negotiating-table-should-stay-politician-free","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2008\/04\/18\/negotiating-table-should-stay-politician-free\/","title":{"rendered":"Negotiating table should stay politician-free"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" src=\"http:\/\/farm1.static.flickr.com\/79\/247235564_cea9bd74b9.jpg?v=0\" height=\"333\" style=\"width: 500px; height: 333px\" \/>\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>In the mainstream media and the blogosphere, more than a few writers have this demented notion that Mayor David Miller or TTC chairman Adam Giambrone should be at the negotiating\u00a0table now that the largest TTC workers&#8217; union, ATU Local\u00a0113, has set a strike deadline.<\/p>\n<p>These are either people who don&#8217;t know a lick about collective bargaining or they have a political agenda that supersedes the public interest.<\/p>\n<p>For one, the Mayor doesn&#8217;t have the authority to negotiate so he could be in China and it wouldn&#8217;t make a difference. As far as Chairman Giambrone is concerned, he should be receiving updates a few times a day and ensure the management negotiators continue to implement the negotiating strategy the TTC commission endorsed. Secondly, as Toronto Life writer Philip Preville <a href=\"http:\/\/www.torontolife.com\/blog\/preville-politics\/2008\/apr\/11\/junior-giambrone-refuses-swallow-union-bait\/\">points out <\/a>on his blog, going over TTC Chief General Manager Gary Webster&#8217;s head right now would be a surefire way of receiving his resignation Monday morning. So I assure you, neither the Mayor not Councillor Giambrone will be saddling up to the bargaining table this weekend.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s an appropriate intervention from the politicians: late Sunday the TTC will table its final offer to the union. It will have some major concessions in it and it will be a good faith attempt to avert the strike. Union president Bob Kinnear won&#8217;t get everything on ATU 113&#8217;s wish list but it&#8217;ll be enough to make him think long and hard about whether to lead his members on the first legal strike of his presidency. This is when the politicians enter the picture and go for the classic \u00e2\u20ac\u0153walk down the hallway\u00e2\u20ac\u009d with Kinnear. Giambrone and Kinnear will have the heart to heart with Adam telling Bob, \u00e2\u20ac\u0153look, this is the best we can do, I have nothing more so let&#8217;s get this thing done right now.\u00e2\u20ac\u009d Mayor Miller may call a couple minutes later and offer similar words if Giambrone is unsuccessful. Neither politician will re-open negotiations but it will allow Kinnear to say that he got the word of the people who hold the purse strings that this is the best deal out there.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll unhappily eat my words if I&#8217;m wrong but I expect the TTC will be running as usual on Monday morning. Gary Webster may not be a politician but he knows there are some big political behinds on line if he can&#8217;t get\u00a0this deal done.<\/p>\n<p><em>Photograph by <\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/10913883@N00\/\"><em>Feistygaljt<\/em><\/a><em>.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u00a0 In the mainstream media and the blogosphere, more than a few writers have this demented notion that Mayor David Miller or TTC chairman Adam Giambrone should be at the negotiating\u00a0table now that the largest TTC workers&#8217; union, ATU Local\u00a0113, has set a strike deadline. 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