{"id":33999,"date":"2012-10-09T08:45:25","date_gmt":"2012-10-09T12:45:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacingtoronto.ca\/?p=33999"},"modified":"2012-10-09T19:12:37","modified_gmt":"2012-10-09T23:12:37","slug":"lorinc-ceasefire-or-armistice-between-ttc-and-metrolinx","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2012\/10\/09\/lorinc-ceasefire-or-armistice-between-ttc-and-metrolinx\/","title":{"rendered":"LORINC: Ceasefire or armistice between TTC and Metrolinx?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/network\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2012\/10\/crosstown-LRV.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-34001\" title=\"crosstown-LRV\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/network\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2012\/10\/crosstown-LRV-600x349.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"349\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2012\/10\/crosstown-LRV-600x349.jpg 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2012\/10\/crosstown-LRV.jpg 916w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/network\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2011\/12\/feature-lorinc.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"600\" height=\"85\" \/><\/p>\n<p>At the press conference last week where the TTC and Metrolinx declared their latest truce, I asked Liberal infrastructure minister Bob Chiarelli whether the province was ragging the puck when it came to revealing the Big Move investment strategy.<\/p>\n<p>For the record, he dismissed the suggestion, but pointed out that when the agency does fulfill its statutory obligation to release its \u201cadvice\u201d on how finance GTA transit by next June, the proposals will have to be discussed in every kitchen and at every Tim Horton\u2019s across the land. In other words, don\u2019t expect this dance of the seven veils to end anytime soon.<\/p>\n<p>But he also offered a tiny shard of insight into his government\u2019s thinking on the timing question. The feds, Chiarelli said, have been gathering up feedback on the architecture of a new national infrastructure program, to take the place of the current one, which expires in 2014. Ontario, he noted, had just sent over its submission for the consideration of the honourable minister, blah, blah, blah.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.moi.gov.on.ca\/en\/infrastructure\/ltip\/plan.asp\">Here<\/a> is Chiarelli\u2019s submission, loftily entitled, \u201cBuilding Canada Together: Ontario&#8217;s Recommendations for the Federal Long-Term Infrastructure Plan.\u201d As with all such documents, the Ontario government comes across as very keen to spend tax dollars levied by the federal government. As for Queen\u2019s Park\u2019s own contribution, well, the submission is somewhat less than forthcoming.<\/p>\n<p>While Chiarelli\u2019s submission goes on at length about the return on infrastructure investment and the importance of transit for Gridlockville, uh, the GTA, there is just one lonely mention of The Big Move, and not so much as a footnote about the estimated tab ($50 billion over 25 years, but probably a lot more).<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The inter-governmental tango over the next generation of federal-provincial infrastructure deals will drag on for at least another year and a half, perhaps longer if Ottawa continues to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.vancouversun.com\/business\/Ottawa+misses+deficit+target+billion\/7354888\/story.html\">miss the mark<\/a> on its deficit reduction projections.<\/p>\n<p>In any event, Chiarelli\u2019s policy guys are almost certainly focusing on how much of the federal infrastructure pie they can snag, and which slice will go to GTA transit. That latter number, in theory, should help ease the sticker shock on the Big Move. So while GTA residents sit in their kitchens and coffee shops ruminating about all the additional taxes they\u2019ll face in order to build new transit, provincial negotiators will be hard at work trying to reduce the province\u2019s financial exposure.<\/p>\n<p>The molten process of finding new revenue serves to foreground the more immediate problem of the sibling rivalry between the TTC and Metrolinx, and whether the current arrangement (two entirely distinct boards reporting to two governments that have a lot of trouble aligning their plans) is one that\u2019s built to last.<\/p>\n<p>Last week\u2019s d\u00e9tente was all about getting the conflict over the LRT outsourcing deals off page one. TTC chair Karen Stintz proved to be a better poker player than I reckoned <a href=\"..\/..\/..\/..\/..\/2012\/09\/24\/lorinc-why-should-ttc-operate-the-new-lrt-lines\/\">previously in this space<\/a>. The province made sure it came out looking reasonable. And both sides claimed to be satisfied with the compromise: private sector consortia will vie for 30-year contracts to design, build and maintain the lines, while the TTC retains full control over scheduling, access to the tracks and other operational issues.<\/p>\n<p>But as the little noted B-side of the press release made clear, the tough negotiations have merely been deferred to another day, not resolved. The TTC and Metrolinx (and the unnamed private partner) have yet to work out big money details such as fare-setting and the quantum of the city\u2019s subsidy to these new lines. These critical elements must be in place by 2020, two years before the lines open.<\/p>\n<p>My question is whether the TTC and Metrolinx are capable of building a stronger working relationship in the interval &#8212; one less vulnerable to episodes of mutual suspicion, latent financial rivalry and diverging policy goals.<\/p>\n<p>At the press conference, Stintz, TTC CEO Andy Byford and Metrolinx CEO Bruce McCuaig all took turns stressing how the senior officials of the two organizations were working hand in glove, meeting weekly, etc. The brief, but sharp, exchange of hostilities over the LRT outsourcing deal, they said, was just an honest misunderstanding, something that had been worked through and resolved.<\/p>\n<p>Metrolinx chair Rob Prichard told me he\u2019s satisfied with the current arrangement, and argued that mucking around with the governance of these two agencies won\u2019t solve anything. \u201cGovernance is not the central issue; clear choices and excellent execution are the keys. We can make any reasonable governance system work well including the current one, with the commitment of the parties.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Stintz, however, is less sanguine. She says the Metrolinx board should include municipal representation, as it initially did. And, she adds, the GTA municipalities must make a direct financial contribution to Metrolinx\u2019s projects if they want to be taken seriously as partners in the planning and execution of huge capital projects.<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps paradoxically, they both make solid points. Still, I\u2019d say the two agencies have yet to develop an enduring, institutionalized approach to working out their differences \u2013 both at the operational and policy levels &#8212; in ways that satisfy their respective governments and offer transparent decision-making to the public.<\/p>\n<p>Now\u2019s the time to do it, incidentally, because the really challenging negotiations \u2013 the ones involving money \u2013 are still a few years down the road. What\u2019s more, it\u2019s easy to imagine that the Ontario government will ultimately abandon the investment strategy and go back to funding transit projects on a cost-shared one-off basis using federal and municipal contributions.<\/p>\n<p>The next one, almost certainly, will be the Downtown Relief Line \u2013 an epic undertaking that will make the Eglinton-Crosstown look like so many pavement patches. One can only hope that by then, Metrolinx and the TTC will have ratified a peace treaty that outlasts political regimes and senior officials. After all, what government wants to throw heaps of money into the middle of a simmering feud?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>At the press conference last week where the TTC and Metrolinx declared their latest truce, I asked Liberal infrastructure minister Bob Chiarelli whether the province was ragging the puck when it came to revealing the Big Move investment strategy. For the record, he dismissed the suggestion, but pointed out that when the agency does fulfill<a href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2012\/10\/09\/lorinc-ceasefire-or-armistice-between-ttc-and-metrolinx\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"sr-only\">&#8220;LORINC: Ceasefire or armistice between TTC and Metrolinx?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4051,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[8],"tags":[19401,19329,15998,984,976,5935,651,21190,21189,1969,21188,8533,636,1177,346,21187,316,11804,10961,889,391],"class_list":["post-33999","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-transit","tag-andy-byford","tag-bob-chiarelli","tag-bruce-mccuaig","tag-ceo","tag-chair","tag-crosstown","tag-federal-government","tag-gridlockville","tag-honourable-minister","tag-karen-stintz","tag-liberal-infrastructure-minister","tag-metrolinx","tag-ontario","tag-ontario-government","tag-ottawa","tag-poker-player","tag-queen","tag-rob-prichard","tag-tim-horton","tag-ttc","tag-usd"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>LORINC: Ceasefire or armistice between TTC and Metrolinx? - Spacing Toronto<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2012\/10\/09\/lorinc-ceasefire-or-armistice-between-ttc-and-metrolinx\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"LORINC: Ceasefire or armistice between TTC and Metrolinx? - Spacing Toronto\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"At the press conference last week where the TTC and Metrolinx declared their latest truce, I asked Liberal infrastructure minister Bob Chiarelli whether the province was ragging the puck when it came to revealing the Big Move investment strategy. 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