{"id":48812,"date":"2014-06-19T21:52:38","date_gmt":"2014-06-20T01:52:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/?p=48812"},"modified":"2014-08-25T10:44:13","modified_gmt":"2014-08-25T14:44:13","slug":"if-a-billboard-falls-in-a-forest_1","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2014\/06\/19\/if-a-billboard-falls-in-a-forest_1\/","title":{"rendered":"MESLIN: If a billboard falls in a forest\u2026 Part 1"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bathurst and Davenport cross each other just below the steep shoreline of ancient <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Glacial_Lake_Iroquois#Remnant_shorelines\" target=\"_blank\">Lake Iroquois<\/a>. The intersection is lush with greenery and steeped in history.<\/p>\n<p>On one corner lies the <a href=\"http:\/\/transit.toronto.on.ca\/streetcar\/4304.shtml\" target=\"_blank\">TTC Hillcrest Yards<\/a>, where our streetcars have been repaired and rebuilt for ninety years. A recent makeover has transformed the landscape adding new shrubs, trees, interlocking brick and public benches to the corner.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/TTC-yard_WIDE.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-48832\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/TTC-yard_WIDE-600x261.png\" alt=\"TTC yard_WIDE\" width=\"600\" height=\"261\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/TTC-yard_WIDE-600x261.png 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/TTC-yard_WIDE-300x130.png 300w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/TTC-yard_WIDE.png 665w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Across the street is a public park, the home of Toronto\u2019s historic <a href=\"http:\/\/tollkeeperscottage.ca\/\" target=\"_blank\">Tollkeeper&#8217;s Cottage museum<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-large wp-image-48835\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park-600x230.png\" alt=\"tollkeepers park\" width=\"600\" height=\"230\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park-600x230.png 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park-300x115.png 300w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park-940x361.png 940w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/tollkeepers-park.png 1037w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Just steps away you\u2019ll find the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wychwood_Park\" target=\"_blank\">Wychwood Park neighbourhood<\/a>, a former artists\u2019 colony and the first residential zone in Ontario to be granted heritage status. Walking north on Bathurst, you\u2019ll find yourself in a picturesque Toronto scene with large trees leaning across both sides of the wide street casting a broken leafy shadow on the streetcar tracks below.<\/p>\n<p>And then suddenly, like one musical instrument terribly out of tune with the rest of the band, something sharply interrupts the thick green grove of trees. Steel structures protrude from the maple branches, inserting two massive commercial billboards into the scene.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-48824 size-large\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards-600x409.jpg\" alt=\"two_billboards\" width=\"600\" height=\"409\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards-600x409.jpg 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards-300x204.jpg 300w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards-940x642.jpg 940w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/two_billboards.jpg 1588w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Someone might ask themselves <em>\u201cWho would possibly allow billboards like this to get a sign permit?\u201d. <\/em>It turns out the answer might be: nobody would, and nobody did. In fact, I have been told by City Staff that they do not have any records of permits for these signs. This is not an isolated scenario.\u00a0 It\u2019s quite possible that dozens of billboards across Toronto, if not hundreds, are illegal signs without any proper permits.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m on a journey, a bureaucratic journey, trying to get to the bottom of these two particular billboards. It\u2019s an experiment in democracy. A pilot project. Can City Hall protect our public spaces? Or are they powerless against the lawyers and consultants of the outdoor advertising industry which continues to use public space as their own playground, cluttering our scenery with visual garbage?<\/p>\n<p>My journey began in 2005, when I was working as the Executive Assistant to City Councillor Joe Mihevc. It\u2019s a shocking tale of procedural inertia, bureaucratic confusion, and a broken democracy.<\/p>\n<p>In order to inquire about permits, I had to figure out the address of the signs. They&#8217;re facing Bathurst street, about ten feet from the sidewalk, but there was no indication of any address number. I researched the property records of the neighbourhood, and I discovered that the billboards are actually on a piece of land belonging to Burnside Avenue, on top of the hill. In other words, the billboards are essentially stuck the in the backyard of a vacant property on a residential street. The slice of land is owned by the billboard company and they&#8217;re using it to bombard\/distract drivers, cyclists and pedestrians on Bathurst street. Now that I had the address, I asked the city if the signs had permits.<\/p>\n<p>What happened next is fascinating:<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\"><strong>January 12, 2006<br \/>\nSubject: \u00a0re:\u00a0Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">\u00a0Hi Dave,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">We have researched these two signs and we have no records of any permits. I have issued a notice to the owner to either obtain a permit or remove the signs. I will keep you updated\u00a0you as to the progress of these signs.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">thanks<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Christine Muccilli<br \/>\nMunicipal Standards Officer<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\"><strong>September 26, 2006<br \/>\nSubject: Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">Hi Christine,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">I&#8217;m checking in on the 25 Burnside file. \u00a0The original request was sent by the Councillor&#8217;s office in November &#8217;05. \u00a0No permits were found and you issued a notice to the owner in January\u00a006, eight months ago. \u00a0The billboards are still there, and I was wondering if there is any reason for this. \u00a0I know that you were sourcing contractors to remove the sign in August. \u00a0If the\u00a0cost if too prohibitive, please let me know and I&#8217;ll be more than happy to remove them myself! \u00a0; )<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">My neighbours and I hope the signs will be gone in the near future. \u00a0I know that your department is understaffed and underfunded, but it still seems excessive for bylaw enforcement to\u00a0require an entire year to remove two illegal 200 square foot illuminated billboards in a residential neighbourhood.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">thanks,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">~ dave<br \/>\n<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\"><strong>September 26, 2006<br \/>\nSubject: Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Our contractor is in the process of having the signs removed. The contractor has had to contact Hydro to have the electrical wires for lighting removed from the Billboard prior to work\u00a0commencing. \u00a0This should happen today or tomorrow at the latest.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Fion<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Fiona Skurjat<br \/>\nSupervisor, Municipal Licensing &amp; Standards<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\"><strong>October 11 2006<br \/>\nSubject: Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">Hi Fiona,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">It&#8217;s been two weeks and nothing has happened at the site. \u00a0The illegal billboards are still there, with the lights on. \u00a0Any update on the timeline\/schedule?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">thanks,<br \/>\n~ dave<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\"><strong>Oct 11 2006<br \/>\nSubject: Re: Fwd: Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Sorry Dave the best I can say is that we are meeting with the property reps to discuss the conformity of the signs, as new information has come forth.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Therefore we are on standby pending the outcome of the meeting.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">\u00a0Fiona<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\"><strong>October 23, 2006<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\"><strong>Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">Hi Fiona,<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">That&#8217;s one heck of a long meeting you&#8217;re having.\u00a0\u00a0 ; )<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">Any update on the situation?<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #800000\">~ dave<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\"><strong>October 23, 2006<br \/>\nSubject:\u00a0 Re: Request for update re: 25 Burnside Ave<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Hi All,<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">This matter is still under investigation based on new information. Until the investigation is complete we are unable to discuss the specifics.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Elizabeth Glibbery<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px\"><span style=\"color: #333399\">Manager, Municipal Licensing and Standards<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>And that was it. I never heard anything else. What was the \u201cnew information\u201d? Was a permit suddenly found? Did their lawyers threaten the city? I never found out.<\/p>\n<p>This year I\u2019ve decided to follow up and I\u2019ll be posting updates here on Spacing Toronto.<\/p>\n<p>My first step was to meet with Ted Van Vliet, Manager of the city&#8217;s Sign Bylaw Unit. Ted\u2019s a great guy, and I\u2019ve worked with him before. He believes in the public process and sees his role as being an impartial facilitator of dialogue between all relevant players: industry, citizens and City Council. He seeks pragmatic compromise between all stakeholders.<\/p>\n<p>I asked him about the billboards in the forest. He said he had found the property file, and that city staff had concluded in 2006 that the billboards could not be removed, because of \u2018new information\u2019.<\/p>\n<p>I asked him what the new information was. He said he didn\u2019t know, and that it might be very difficult to find out. He explained that once lawyers get involved, some information becomes confidential. I suggested to Ted that the public deserved to know why the billboards were still there, since they have a significant impact on public space. Even if some information is confidential, surely there\u2019s a way of communicating how or why the decision was made. I also pointed out that the process as he described it (ie: decisions being made based on secret information) opened the door to corruption. After all, the \u201cnew information\u201d could have been a suitcase with $10K in it.<\/p>\n<p>Ted agreed that the city should be obligated to explain, in some way, why the billboards are still there. He suggested that I file a Freedom of Information request. I protested again: Why should a citizen have to file an FOI, to get basic information that should already be publicly available? FOIs take time and money, and the results can be slow and incomplete.<\/p>\n<p>He agreed again. Ted said he would ask his colleagues for more information, and would get an answer to me as soon as possible. Based on my earlier dealings with the city on this issue, I was worried that \u201cas soon as possible\u201d might turn into months, or years. I asked him what he thought was a reasonable time period to get the information. He said two weeks. I asked if we could schedule a follow-up meeting, two weeks later, to go over the information.\u00a0 He agreed.\u00a0 The meeting is tomorrow.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter wp-image-48828\" src=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped-600x167.png\" alt=\"Burnside_StreetView_cropped\" width=\"650\" height=\"182\" srcset=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped-600x167.png 600w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped-300x83.png 300w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped-940x262.png 940w, https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/4\/2014\/06\/Burnside_StreetView_cropped.png 1181w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 650px) 100vw, 650px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>I\u2019m curious to see how this unfolds. Partially because I feel the neighbourhood would really benefit from the removal of the signs, but also because I think this experience is indicative of a much deeper problem at City Hall: lawyers and consultants representing private interest seem to have a lot of influence, while ordinary citizens experience roadblocks and obstacles as they try to navigate the system.<\/p>\n<p>Our democratic structures should serve the needs of the public, by providing opportunities for practical and meaningful participation. That requires easy access to information and a transparent process.<\/p>\n<p>Next: <a href=\"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2014\/07\/25\/billboard-falls-forest-part-2\/\">Part II\u2026.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/flic.kr\/p\/5qVcGF\"><em>\u00a0photo by Jesse Kinos-Goodin<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bathurst and Davenport cross each other just below the steep shoreline of ancient Lake Iroquois. The intersection is lush with greenery and steeped in history. On one corner lies the TTC Hillcrest Yards, where our streetcars have been repaired and rebuilt for ninety years. A recent makeover has transformed the landscape adding new shrubs, trees,<a href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2014\/06\/19\/if-a-billboard-falls-in-a-forest_1\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"sr-only\">&#8220;MESLIN: If a billboard falls in a forest\u2026 Part 1&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4008,"featured_media":48856,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_ef_editorial_meta_paragraph_assignment":"","_ef_editorial_meta_date_first-draft-date":"","_ef_editorial_meta_checkbox_needs-photo":"","_ef_editorial_meta_number_word-count":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[157,21757,21758,13,18,47,2,32,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-48812","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-civic-engagement","category-communication","category-community","category-green-space","category-neighbourhoods","category-parks","category-politics","category-streetscape","category-urban-design"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>MESLIN: If a billboard falls in a forest\u2026 Part 1 - Spacing Toronto<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2014\/06\/19\/if-a-billboard-falls-in-a-forest_1\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"MESLIN: If a billboard falls in a forest\u2026 Part 1 - Spacing Toronto\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"Bathurst and Davenport cross each other just below the steep shoreline of ancient Lake Iroquois. 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