{"id":60611,"date":"2019-08-27T08:00:35","date_gmt":"2019-08-27T12:00:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/?p=60611"},"modified":"2019-08-27T08:31:54","modified_gmt":"2019-08-27T12:31:54","slug":"exclusive-john-tory-discusses-housing-goals-and-planning-reforms","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/spacing.ca\/toronto\/2019\/08\/27\/exclusive-john-tory-discusses-housing-goals-and-planning-reforms\/","title":{"rendered":"EXCLUSIVE: John Tory discusses housing goals and planning reforms"},"content":{"rendered":"

Later this fall, city council will receive the first of what will likely be a long series of planning reports responding to a July motion (MM9.36)<\/a> moved by mayor John Tory and housing czar Ana Bailao that asked for ideas on spurring missing middle-type housing<\/a> and intensifying the Yellowbelt<\/a> — the 70% of Toronto where only single detached homes are currently allowed.<\/p>\n

The motion came as something of a surprise, given how central Toronto\u2019s neighbourhoods are to council and mayoral politics. And it raises the stakes on the question of whether council is truly prepared to demand that Toronto\u2019s neighbourhoods provide more housing as a means of easing the city’s supply crunch and therefore prices\/rents.<\/p>\n

The “how,” as Tory\u2019s officials and the planning staff well know, will be both complicated and contentious. After all, the Official Plan has long been premised on what\u2019s called a \u201cgrand bargain\u201d: that almost all intensification will be directed to the Avenues and transitioning industrial areas while \u201cstable\u201d neighbourhoods get to stay as they are, unless, of course, homeowners are looking to knock down smaller houses and replace them with giant ones.<\/p>\n

There has been some movement on the housing file lately: new rules for secondary suites and rental laneway houses. The City secured over $1 billion in federal funding to repair thousands of Toronto Community Housing apartments, and, last winter, launched Housing Now, an ambitious plan to build 11,000 new apartments, including 3,700 affordable ones, on 11 parcels of city land. But these changes have been undermined by a recent official plan amendment, known as OPA 320<\/a>, that has sought to flash freeze residential neighbourhoods using dubious regulations that attempt to define “character.”<\/p>\n

Tory’s bid to re-write the OP rules governing neighbourhoods also coincides with major changes in planning policy from the provincial Tories, with even more reforms said to be in the pipeline. The Ontario Municipal Board is back from the dead. Municipalities now have new tools to force intensification around transit stops. And the Ford government\u2019s consolidation of community benefits charges<\/a> means the era of Section 37\/let\u2019s-make-a-deal development applications has come to a close.<\/p>\n

In a far-ranging interview with Spacing<\/em> last week, Tory discussed his housing goals, the politics of neighbourhood planning reform, and his intention to make more strategic use of publicly owned land as a means of tackling Toronto\u2019s affordability crisis. (The interview has been edited and condensed.)<\/p>\n

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Q:<\/strong> Why now? What is the reason for going ahead with this reform at this moment?<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> In times of rapid change, you start to run out of options as to the things you can do. [During the election], I set a target of 40,000 [new housing units in ten years] because I wanted to be ambitious. But that was not going to happen unless you made some changes to the status quo.<\/p>\n

We boil [housing] down to two stark choices: the 40-storey skyscraper or low-rise, single-family detached houses. There was absolutely nothing in between. [In] large swaths of the city, the prohibition against any kind of gentle way to increase density [means] if you really want to make great progress, you simply had to change the status quo.<\/p>\n

I\u2019m very seized by the passage of time. When we sit in these meetings on Housing Now<\/a>, and [city officials] present me with the timetable, you\u2019re talking about occupancies into 2022, 2023. We better get on with this.<\/p>\n

People can be critical of my leadership style, and that\u2019s fair game. The main criticism is, this guy doesn\u2019t move fast enough. I recognize that if you want to get the support you need at the city council on these sensitive matters, you have to keep moving forward, but at a pace that makes sure you don\u2019t leave the majority of council sitting behind you.<\/p>\n

[In] a speech I made at BILD in March, I said I was prepared to invest some political capital on housing and transit-oriented development. To me, it\u2019s all part of the same file. You have to start to change the public\u2019s opinion and broaden their understanding of the challenges we face if we\u2019re going to be a home for people from all walks of life. It isn\u2019t just the missing middle. The status quo is also the reluctance on the part of people who live near transit stops to accept that that is the logical place for some densification.<\/p>\n

For the vast majority of people, housing and affordable housing was the single biggest issue in the election. It was big among young people who were having trouble finding it. It was big among their parents who were concerned their kids couldn\u2019t find housing. Despite that consensus, you have a wide disparity of views. My job is to engage the public in a more open discussion. You just can\u2019t exclude 70% of the city [zoned for detached residential]. It\u2019s just not a viable option anymore.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Let\u2019s talk about NIMBYism. The politics of this city and this institution is built on the stability of a lot of great neighbourhoods. But that stability comes from not much changing, except owners building bigger houses. So what you\u2019re saying with this move is, I\u2019m not just going to step on the third rail of local politics; I\u2019m going to dance on the third rail for a while. Councillors all know there\u2019s a knee jerk reaction to oppose anything different, even modest mid-rise buildings on main streets. So how do you change that mindset?<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> I believe, first, the core values of Torontonians strongly support the notion that we should not be excluding people just because [they] can\u2019t afford to live here. Second, if they don\u2019t accept the so-called moral case, then they would accept the business case, that we need to have a place for people to live who perform all kinds of different roles in Toronto\u2019s economy. There are people in lower-income jobs who are really important to the functioning of the economy. There are people in higher paid jobs. There has to be a place for everybody, including those in between.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> There are duplexes, triplexes and mid-rise apartment buildings are all over the place, but with each next development, it\u2019s like the sky is going to fall\u2026<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> Maybe you need to take [residents] and show them. I [also] think the development industry has to be more creative. Somehow it\u2019s become a choice between a skyscraper or nothing. I look at places like the Danforth and say, there\u2019s lots of opportunity to do stuff that is creative here.<\/p>\n

In those neighbourhoods [where] people argue that any concept of a duplex or a triplex would be an outrageous alteration to the character of that neighbourhood, they don\u2019t realize some of these large residences for many years were homes with three flats. Everybody was peaceful and happy and nobody really knows the difference.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Let me ask you about the political management of this reform. There are dense layers of regulation, some approved quite recently, which militate against this whole idea. How do you begin to undo that? How do you moving aside some of that regulatory burden<\/em>?<\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> The professional planners have to help us with the mechanics. Then we have to apply what I call the small-p political lens, which is the art of the possible in terms of how many changes you can make and still sustain the public\u2019s confidence. There are 25 members of council who have something to say on this, and there are three million people who live here. But I have some political capital to invest. We can\u2019t go on the way we\u2019re going.<\/p>\n

There are a lot of people in the city right now who are very uneasy about all of these condominium towers. They\u2019re saying, `Where does that all end?\u2019 I don\u2019t know if there\u2019s an answer but you [have to] say to them, `look, you better have some other answer if you don\u2019t like a diet that consists entirely of high-rise towers.\u2019 I think people are ready for that discussion. We\u2019re going to have to go about it in an orderly way. [And] we\u2019re counting on the planning department to come back with [recommendations]. Maybe they\u2019re the very best people to do it because they put those dense layers of regulation in place.<\/p>\n

We can\u2019t get into stark choices. I like the expression that it\u2019s a `gentle\u2019 way to densify in all different parts of the city. I see no reason whatsoever why [gentle density] needs to affect the character of the neighbourhoods at all. This is a false choice: Either you leave it the same, which protects the character, or you change it, which ruins the character. I don\u2019t think that\u2019s the choice. Find ways to achieve the densification that protects the character of the neighbourhood. It\u2019s entirely possible. The challenge is to find the regulatory ways and then the political means to sell that, starting with the councillors.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> When you talk to councillors and members of the public, what is your `or else?\u2019 If we don\u2019t fix the housing crisis, what happens to the city?<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> The city will fail to live up to its own value of being a city that includes people from all different income groups. We really want to be a city where everyone can find a home here. And I don\u2019t mean just a home for the sake of calling it that, but a home we\u2019re satisfied with in terms of its reasonable quality and affordability, within the city. Secondly, I think you put the city\u2019s economy at risk. Some people will say, `That\u2019s okay, we really can\u2019t afford to grow any more.\u2019 I utterly reject that. The city has to continue to grow because that rising tide is going to life all boats.<\/p>\n

I tell people to do the math on a single person, with a good, solid secure job earning say $55,000 a year. How easy is it for those people to find a place to live in the City of Toronto? If there\u2019s an adequate supply of housing for people like that, then they\u2019re going to free up some more housing for some other people. We have a separate challenge with developing affordable housing and restoring the social housing stock.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> There are cities in the U.S. and Europe where municipal governments have ripped the band aid off, up-zoning all single-family residential neighbourhoods. Minneapolis, Seattle, etc. These changes were mayor led. What is your thought about that approach? <\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> Do I think we have to rip the band aid off here? My leadership style is relevant to this. I am prepared to see us take some bold steps and will rely on the professional planners. We\u2019ve told them, don\u2019t tell us that good planning is entirely the preservation of the status quo. We asked [them] how can we increase the availability of housing in the 70% of the city that presently has very strict restrictions.<\/p>\n

The best way to deal with [reform] is to present people with options. It\u2019s not about studies. I think pilot projects are okay, but we\u2019re looking at changes that are broader and faster. The way in which we\u2019ll demonstrate that the initial by-products of the changes we\u2019ve made are not harmful is by seeing them happen, and by pointing out to people that they\u2019ve already happened in other parts of the city [and] things are fine there.<\/p>\n

If [the planning staff] says the only way to do this is with a ripping off the band-aid approach, I\u2019ll talk to them about the report at that time. But I\u2019ll also say that is generally not the way you bring a hesitant public along. You bring them along by showing them there\u2019s a way to bring about change that\u2019s not painful or scary, but is actually quite sensible.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> How should we use public land for housing in ways that are different than has been done in recent years, which is to sell property and use the proceeds to pay down debt?<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> My approach is very different. The key thing is to keep as much [public land] as possible. What better use could you make of public resources than to own strategically located land that you might have some purpose for, if not today than five years from today?<\/p>\n

Also, we have not had a coordinated approach. [The City of Toronto] was the first to put up public land [for housing]. In my first term, we put up pieces of land, some of which had been lying fallow for 10 or 12 years. We\u2019ve got housing developments now that people are moving into today that resulted from that.<\/p>\n

The next step I took was to urge the federal and provincial governments to do what we have done. We\u2019ve had very mixed success. I do know the federal government did an inventory [of federal land in Toronto], and put up exactly zero pieces of land, so far.<\/p>\n

What I\u2019d like to take forward now is a coordinated [approach]. If you take all the land owned by the federal government, by the province and by us, you have a formidable series of real estate options. Why wouldn\u2019t you sit down and say, how can we coordinate the use of that land? Right now, very little of that discussion takes place.<\/p>\n

Q:<\/strong> Can you make a compelling economic case for holding on to that publicly owned land?<\/em><\/p>\n

JT:<\/strong> Pay now or pay later. If you assume we must deal with the challenge of affordable housing, to keep cities healthy, there are only two ways to do it: one is through cash, which everybody is short of. But if you put land up, you\u2019re not only going to get what I consider to be a desirable use of that land, but [also] a reduction in the cash required. It\u2019s something these governments should be very interested in doing. In most cases, you maintain ownership of the asset. It\u2019s a very compelling argument.<\/p>\n

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